On this episode Vitamin D sat down with ethnic studies scholar and well-traveled speaker on decolonial thought from the Americas, Ramon Grosfoguel. Ramon is associate professor of ethnic studies and Chicano studies at University of California, Berkeley and has traveled extensively to speak and participate in various workshops across the globe. Vitamin D first met Ramon at a couple of his visits to the IHRC (Islamic Human Rights Commission) in London where he delivered lectures on the genealogy of the colonial underside of European modernity. We were lucky enough to catch up with him online as he graciously spent over an hour with us recording this podcast from home and went over the notion of the colonial matrix of power in much more depth. In this discussion Ramon unpacks its history(ies), its relationship to European modernity and other forms of liberation theories, the significance of race as its major organizing principle and much more.